Friday, August 29, 2008

Maybe she should be put into a miocrowave herself????

Baby put in microwave on purpose

DAYTON, Ohio (AP) -- A mother intentionally put her month-old daughter in a microwave oven and cooked the child to death after a fight with her boyfriend, a prosecutor told jurors Thursday.

China Arnold is accused of killing her baby by burning her in the microwave.

China Arnold is accused of killing her baby by burning her in the microwave.

Defendant China Arnold and her boyfriend had argued over whether he was the biological father, Assistant Montgomery County prosecutor Daniel Brandt said during closing arguments in the woman's retrial.

The argument got so heated that Arnold bit her boyfriend's lip and he slapped her, Brandt said.

Arnold, 28, of Dayton, is accused of killing her infant daughter Paris Talley in 2005. She could face the death penalty if convicted of aggravated murder.

Brandt said Arnold told a cellmate she put the baby in the microwave and turned it on because she was worried her boyfriend would leave her if he found out the child wasn't his, Brandt said.

"She could have stopped it with one finger, but she didn't," Brandt said. "We know she used that microwave as the instrument of death."

Defense attorney Jon Paul Rion told the jury there was evidence that someone else was responsible.

He cited testimony from a boy who said he saw another boy walk into the kitchen of a nearby apartment with the baby, heard the microwave go on, and then later saw the burned baby in the microwave.

"He told a very believable story," Rion said.

Judge John Kessler declared a mistrial in February after he privately heard the youngster's account. The boy, now 8, testified at the retrial Tuesday.

In rebuttal, however, the 8-year-old's mother testified Wednesday that they lived some distance away and they were not at Arnold's apartment complex when the baby died. Her former live-in boyfriend also testified that he was certain the boy was not at the location.

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

595 down - 12 million to go!

U.S. immigration cops nab 595 in largest-ever raid

U.S. immigration agents have arrested 595 people at a Mississippi factory in what was the largest workplace enforcement raid in the United States to date, an immigration official said on Tuesday.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Barbara Gonzalez said federal agents arrested the workers in a raid at the Howard Industries Inc. factory in Laurel, Miss, on Monday, "This is the largest targeted workplace enforcement operation we have carried out in the United States to date," Gonzalez told Reuters by telephone.

The swoop at the plant, which makes electrical equipment including transformers, was part of an ongoing investigation into identity theft and fraudulent use of Social Security and for illegal immigrants.

The nationalities of the detainees was not immediately available.

Gonzalez said 475 detainees were transferred to an ICE detention facility in Jena, Louisiana, while nine unaccompanied minors -- eight males and one female -- were placed in the custody of the office of refugee resettlement.

A further 106 people were released based on "humanitarian concerns," Gonzalez said.

Immigration, particularly what do about some 12 million illegal immigrants living in the shadows in the United States, is a divisive issue in this election year.

Last year, Republicans in the U.S. Senate killed an immigration overhaul that would have offered many workers in the U.S. illegally a path to citizenship.

The measure was supported by both Republican presumptive nominee John McCain and Democrat rival Barack Obama.

Since its failure, immigration authorities have stepped up workplace enforcement raids, which have nabbed more than 4,000 people nationally since October 1 last year.

Previously the largest single immigration sweep was conducted at Agriprocessors Inc, a kosher meat plant in Postville, Iowa, which arrested 390 people in May.

Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Board approves law that holds parents accountable for kids' graffiti - Los Angeles Times

Board approves law that holds parents accountable for kids' graffiti

About time!!


Board approves law that holds parents accountable for kids' graffiti

The L.A. County supervisors' measure will allow authorities to hold taggers and their parents liable for civil damages.

By Andrew Blankstein, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 11:10 AM PDT, August 19, 2008

Seeking to hit graffiti vandals and their parents in the pocketbook, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors today unanimously approved a measure that would allow authorities to hold taggers -- and their parents -- liable for civil damages.It goes into effect in 30 days.

The new county law is part of a broader strategy against blight that aims to step up enforcement by conducting more specialized prosecutions, as well having the violators pay fines up to $1,000 and having liens issued against their property. When warranted, the measure also would allow authorities to seek felony vandalism charges in court.

The thinking behind the approach, said Supervisor Gloria Molina, who introduced the ordinance, is to shake up parents and guardians who are in denial about their children's actions, unaware of them or simply don't care. It is another tool to hold the adults accountable, she said.

Los Angeles County spent nearly $30 million last year to clean up graffiti, records show.

But Molina, who said that the actual property damage to businesses and public buildings and infrastructure is far higher, said tagging also had led to violence, including murder.

In one of the most high-profile cases, Robert Whitehead of Valinda was shot to death in 2006 after challenging young gang members he caught crossing out another gang's graffiti on a neighbor's garage. Last year, Pico Rivera grandmother Maria Hicks was gunned down after she honked her car horn, flashed her car lights and followed a tagger who had defaced a wall.

The killings led Molina to push for a six-month pilot program in Pico Rivera and unincorporated areas south and west of Whittier.L.A. County Sheriff's Capt. Michael J. Rothans said that during that period, there were 168 arrests -- 133 minors among them -- for tagging that resulted in $345,000 in damage. In Pico Rivera, one suspected graffiti vandal who was arrested last March was believed to be responsible for tags on 100 locations.

Rothans said 41% of the families with suspects under the age of 18 have sought help by agreeing to attend a parenting or intervention program. None of those minors have been rearrested, he said.

Friday, August 15, 2008

This kid should have saved us all from aggravation and pointed the "lighter" at his forehead!!!

Boy mistakes gun for lighter, shoots finger

LOMA LINDA - A 17-year-old Loma Linda boy was injured Wednesday evening when a gun he was handling accidentally fired.

The boy, along with three other teenagers, was examining the gun at about 9 p.m. Wednesday when it went off, injuring one of his fingers, police said.

The boys said they thought the gun was a lighter and they were trying to make it work when it went off.
The victim was taken to Loma Linda University Medical Center, where he was treated.

Police recovered the weapon, a .22-caliber Derringer, which typically holds two rounds of ammunition. One of the boys told police he found the gun in the street somewhere in San Bernardino.

Police said they want to remind gun owners to keep weapons locked up and away from children or teenagers. The Redlands Police Department offers free gun locks to gun owners, available at all Redlands Police facilities.

For more information on free gun locks, contact the Redlands Police Department at (909) 798-7681.

China is just screwing up all over the place!

Beijing Olympics: 'Ethnic' children exposed as fakes in opening ceremony - Telegraph


Beijing Olympics: 'Ethnic' children exposed as fakes in opening ceremony

Another section of the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony has been exposed as faked - the children supposedly representing the country's 56 ethnic groups were in fact all from the same one, the majority Han Chinese race.

By Richard Spencer in BeijingLast Updated: 11:04AM BST 15 Aug 2008

The Olympic opening ceremony presented to the world an image of the diversity and unity of the Chinese state Photo: EPA

The children accompanied the soldiers carrying in the national flag at the most solemn moment of the ceremony.

They were dressed in costumes associated with the country's ethnic minorities, including those from troubled areas such as Tibet and the muslim province of Xinjiang. Such displays of "national unity" are a compulsory part of any major state occasion.

But the children were all from the Han Chinese majority, which makes up more than 90 per cent of the population and is culturally and politically dominant, according to an official with the cultural troupe from which they were selected.

"I assume they think the kids were very natural looking and nice," Yuan Zhifeng, deputy director of the Galaxy Children's Art Troupe said.

The official guide to the opening ceremony said that the children did not just represent but "came from" China's ethnic groups.

"Fifty-six children from 56 Chinese ethnic groups cluster around the Chinese national flag, representing the 56 ethnic groups," it said.

This point was put to Wang Wei, executive vice-president of the Beijing organising committee at a press conference today.

"I think you are being very meticulous," he said. He said it was "traditional" to use dancers from other ethnic groups in this way.

"I would argue it is normal for dancers, performers, to be dressed in other races' clothes," he said. "I don't know exactly where these performers are from."

The initial triumph of the opening ceremony has already been clouded by revelations that the little girl who sand "Hymn to the Motherland", a patriotic Chinese anthem, was lip-synching to the pre-recorded voice of another girl who had been told she was not pretty enough to appear. The "footprint fireworks" shown on television were also pre-recorded and digitally enhanced.

The discovery that the children representing ethnic groups as diverse as Mongolians and members of the Li group from the south-western mountains were all in fact Han will hardly be noticed in China, where such practices are normal.

Nevertheless it is a sign of how sensitive ethnic relations in China are. At national Communist Party and state congresses, while the Han Chinese delegates all wear suits, carefully chosen members of ethnic minorities are told to wear traditional costume.

"Minority dances" are a regular part of state-sponsored entertainments, with performers coming from all over the country without having to belong to the relevant group.

WAhi is it that only whites can be racists?

Unfortunately, it is so very true.........



Proud To Be White


Someone finally said it.

How many are actually paying attention to this?



There are African Americans,
Mexican Americans,

Asian Americans,

Arab Americans,

Native Americans, etc.

......And then there are just -

Americans.



You pass me on the street

and sneer in my direction.

You Call me 'White boy,'

'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'

'Whitey,' 'Caveman,'

......And that's OK.



But when I call you Nigger,

Kike, Towel head,

Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey,

Beaner, Gook, or Chink,

......You call me a racist..


You say that whites commit a lot

of violence against you,

so why are the ghettos the most

dangerous places to live?


You have the United Negro College Fund.

You have Hispanic History Month.

You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Asian History Month.

You have Black History Month.

You have Cesar Chavez Day.

You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.

You have Yom Hashoah.

You have Kawanza.

You have the NAACP.

And you have BET.


If we had WET

(White Entertainment Television)

......We'd be racists.



If we had a White Pride Day

......You would call us racists.



If we had White History Month

......We'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites

to 'advance' OUR lives,

......We'd be racists.



We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,

a Black Chamber of Commerce,

and then we just have the plain

Chamber of Commerce.

Wonder who pays for that?



If we had a college fund that only gave

white students scholarships

......You know we'd be racists.



There are over 60 openly-proclaimed

Black-only Colleges in the US ,

yet if there were 'White-only Colleges'

......THAT would be a racist college.



In the Million-Man March,

you believed that you were

marching for your race and rights.

If we marched for our race and rights,

......You would call us racists.



You are proud to be black,

brown, yellow and red,

and you're not afraid to announce it.

But when we announce our white pride

......You call us racists.



You rob us,

carjack us,

and shoot at us.

But, when a white police officer

shoots a black gang member

or beats up a black drug-dealer

who is running from the LAW and

posing a threat to ALL of society

......You call him a racist.



I am proud.

......But, you call me a racist.



Why is it that only

whites

can be racists?

Thursday, August 14, 2008

Whites to Lose Majority Status in U.S. by 2042 - WSJ.com

Whites to Lose Majority Status in U.S. by 2042

Whites will comprise less than half of the U.S. population by 2042, about eight years earlier than previously thought, according to a report to be released by the Census Bureau.

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The transition, long predicted by demographers, will spell big changes for the nation's schools and work force. Over the next four decades the non-Hispanic white population will get older, eventually going into decline between 2030 and 2040. Minorities will become a majority of the population aged zero to 17 years first -- in about 15 years -- and move up through age groups for there.

"We are going to become more diverse in more parts of the country and in more of the age structure sooner," said William Frey, senior demographer at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

The decline is driven by a combination of immigration and lower birthrates. The baby-boom generation, all of which will be more than 65 by about 2030, had fewer children than their parents, and their children are following their lead. The Asian population will continue to increase thanks to immigration and higher birthrates, and the non-Hispanic black population mostly because of higher birthrates. In 2050 the share of the black population will have increased by one percentage point to 15%; Asians will rise to about 9% from 5% today. There is also a growing mixed-race population who identify themselves as two or more races on Census forms.

But it is the Hispanic population that is driving minority growth. The total U.S. population is projected to grow to 439 million by 2050, and most of that growth will come from Hispanics. By 2050 about one in three U.S. residents will be Hispanic. While immigration continues to be a driver of the growing Hispanic population, for the past several years most of the growth has come from births.

"Even with the high levels of immigration, a higher proportion of Hispanics will be U.S.-born," said Jeffrey Passel, senior demographer with the Pew Hispanic Center in Washington.

The shift could stratify American politics. The growing share of retired white baby boomers are more likely to be concerned about issues like pensions and health care for themselves and their parents. The growing share of minorities will be concerned about issues like education and job growth. "You always get that generational shift, but now there's a racial layer over it," says Mr. Passel.

The first group to tip will be children. According to an analysis of census data by Mr. Frey, the zero to 4-year-old population will turn "majority minority" in 2021, followed by 18- to 29-year-olds seven years later. Adults between 45 and 64 will become majority minority in 2050, and seniors sometime after.

That means that as whites retire they will increasingly see the jobs they left go to minorities -- in particular Hispanics -- now making their way through the school system. The report "places even greater emphasis on the need to train new Americans and their children" to assume these occupations, says Mr. Frey.

A number of metropolitan areas have already become "majority minority," with many more soon to follow. In Los Angeles, which has long been a gateway for Hispanics, non-Hispanic whites account for about 30% of the population. According to Mr. Frey's projections the counties surrounding Denver, Las Vegas and Orlando, Fla., will all see their non-Hispanic white population fall to 50% or lower in the next two years.

Shifting demographics may change everything from local and national elections to bilingual education and the rationale behind affirmative-action plans. Already, fast-growing states in the Sunbelt and West are seeing signs that shifting demographics could alter state politics. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is campaigning hard in Nevada and Colorado -- two states that were carried by President Bush in 2004 but have grown more Democratic as the states have added more young and minority voters.

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Maybe the cops are too stupid to know that they are on Dash Cam??

Cops off job after alleged dashcam beating - CNN.com

WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (AP) -- A police officer has quit and two others were fired Tuesday after a patrol car dashboard camera caught them punching and kicking a handcuffed suspect.

The dashcam video shows police striking and kicking the suspect, who is on the ground in later frames.

The dashcam video shows police striking and kicking the suspect, who is on the ground in later frames.

West Palm Beach police released the video Monday, showing what happened to Pablo Gilberto Valenzuela, 42, on May 26. He suffered a broken jaw and bruised eyes, authorities said.

Kurt Graham, a rookie officer still on probation, resigned July 22.

City spokesman Chase Scott said the two other officers, Louis Schwartz and Jason Zangara, were dismissed Tuesday after an internal investigation.

He said the police department has "a zero tolerance policy for use of excessive force."

It was not immediately clear whether the officers planned to oppose their termination. A telephone message left at the Police Benevolent Association of Palm Beach County, which would represent the officers, wasn't immediately returned Tuesday.

A telephone call to an L. Schwartz in West Palm Beach rang unanswered. No telephone listings could immediately be found for Zangara or Graham.

According to the city, Schwartz attempted to arrest Valenzuela for robbing a pharmacy of about 1,000 Oxycontin pills.

The officer was involved in an unrelated traffic stop in the pharmacy parking lot when a clerk ran out of the store and said they'd been robbed, he said.

He said Schwartz caught the masked suspect behind the store, where Valenzuela attempted to pepper-spray him.

Schwartz drew his gun and ordered Valenzuela to the ground.

The video shows Graham arrive and put a knee into Valenzuela's back as he was being handcuffed. The video then shows Graham punch and kick Valenzuela in the face. Schwartz is also seen on the video kicking Valenzuela. Video Watch for yourself »

Zangara, the third officer, then lifted a handcuffed Valenzuela to his feet. As the suspect pulls away from the officer, Zangara can be seen punching him several times in the face until the man collapsed.

Valenzuela was arrested on charges of robbery, assault and battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting arrest.

Graham and Schwartz insist they only kicked Valenzuela because the man was trying to bite Graham's leg. Zangara said he punched Valenzuela after he tried to spit on him.

Schwartz and Zangara had been on administrative leave since around the time of the incident.

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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Bad Chinese !!

Official Acknowledges Opening Ceremony Lip Syncing

BEIJING, Aug. 12 -- The pig-tailed girl in a red dress who sang "Ode to the Motherland" during Friday's Opening Ceremony for the Olympics was fit for the event, but apparently her voice was not.

A Chinese government official acknowledged Tuesday that the girl was actually lip-syncing at Beijing's "Bird's Nest" Stadium; the real singer's face was deemed "not suitable."

In an interview with Beijing Radio, Chen Qigang, a member of China's Politburo, said that organizers concluded during a rehearsal that the voice of 9-year-old Lin Miaoke, who appeared before a television audience of tens of millions, "must change." Yang Peiyi, the 7-year-old girl whose voice was judged superior, would actually sing the song.

"We combined the perfect voice and the perfect performance," Chen said. He added that, "The audience will understand that it's in the national interest."

"The national interest requires that the girl should have good looks and a good grasp of the song and look good on screen," Chen continued. "Lin Miaoke was the best in this. And Yang Peiyi's voice was the most outstanding."

The adorable Lin, who is in the third grade, has become an "instant star" since her performance, said the state-run China Daily newspaper. Her father said in the report that he learned only 15 minutes before the ceremony that his daughter would be performing. Lin was already a familiar face to Chinese sports fans -- she had been featured last year in a television ad with Liu Xiang, the hurdling champion who is a favorite for the gold.

In contrast, Yang, who is in the first grade, is described as more shy and modest. Yang's tutor, Wang Liping, said in her blog that Yang "doesn't like to show off. She's easygoing." In a CCTV interview, Yang was asked how she felt about having her voice used for the opening ceremony. She responded that it was an honor.

The Chinese audience did not appreciate the last-minute switch.

In blog postings, some Chinese expressed anger about the decision, saying that the stunt would lead children to believe deception is acceptable and that it could ultimately hurt China's image.

A Chinese newspaper, the Beijing Times, reported last weekend that footage of some fireworks seen by television viewers during the opening ceremonies had been prerecorded. The actual fireworks, in the form of footprints "walking" toward the Bird's Nest, could be seen by spectators in Beijing. But Chinese officials, fearing poor visibility would make it difficult to see the show, provided prerecorded footage to broadcasters "for convenience and theatrical effects -- as in many other big events," Wang Wei, executive vice president of the Beijing Olympic organizing committee, confirmed to reporters on Tuesday.

The complaining is getting retarded as well people!

Disability advocacy groups protest at 'Tropic Thunder' premiere

A few dozen demonstrators showed up outside the Tropic Thunder premiere last night at Mann's Theatre in Los Angeles to protest the movie and its repeated use of the word "retard." The protest took place across the street from the theater, where people representing organizations such as the Special Olympics and the American Association of People with Disabilities were carrying signs that said things like "Tropic Thunder, Colossal Blunder," "We have abilities, not disabilities!", and "'R' word is hate speech."

A coalition of some 22 advocacy groups has launched a boycott of the film, which opens for wide release tomorrow, and Andrew J. Imparato, president of the American Association of People with Disabilities, reportedly called the film "tasteless" and said it was "offensive start to finish" after watching a private screening of the movie on Monday.

Director and star Ben Stiller, who portrays a mentally disabled character named Simple Jack, acknowledged the protesters' right to speak their mind, but also defended his film. "I did not set out to offend anybody, but sometimes, when you are making an R-rated comedy, that happens," Stiller said at the premiere. "That is not what I set out to do, but I think the movie is good and it speaks for itself."

Co-star Jack Black said he doesn't think any of the protesters have seen the movie yet and that he feels that once they do, they will understand that the joke is really on Hollywood, not people with disabilities. "The jokes are all in context of what some actors are willing to do to win an Oscar," Black explained at the premiere. "That is a longstanding joke in Hollywood — that certain types of roles, like the one joked about in the film, help put you in the minds and eyes of the Academy voters and to what lengths some actors will go to bring one of those gold bad boys home."

Co-writer/executive producer Justin Theroux added that he was surprised by the ire — then humorously (we hope) pointed the finger at other, ostensibly more earnest projects that deal with mental disabilities. "[T]here’s a part of me that’s a little puzzled and disappointed, like, ‘Where were you when Radio came out? Because that was pretty offensive," Theroux said. "Or where were they when they made that Rosie O’Donnell Riding the Bus With My Sister film? Because that was way worse in my eyes than our film." (Reporting by Carrie Bell)

You either do or you don't. Just make the decision to stay home!

The Hockey News: Headlines: Joe Sakic getting closer to making decision on if he'll return this season

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Olympic lip-synching debacle

Olympic Balladeer’s Voice Was Dubbed

Olympic Balladeer’s Voice Was Dubbed

Left, Agence France-Presse; Right, Zhou Liang/Xinhua

When Lin Miaoke, right, opened her mouth to sing "Ode to the Motherland" during the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics, the voice that was actually heard was a recording of seven-year-old Yang Peiyi, left.

Published: August 12, 2008

BEIJING — Pigtailed and smiling, Lin Miaoke, age 9, stood in a red dress and white shoes during last Friday’s Olympic opening ceremonies and performed “Ode to the Motherland” in what would become one of the evening’s most indelible images: a lone child, fireworks blazing overhead, singing a patriotic ballad before an estimated one billion viewers.

Except that she was not really singing.

Her proud father, Lin Hui, who only learned of her singing role 15 minutes before the ceremonies began, watched on television and noticed “that the voice was a little different from hers.” On Tuesday, Mr. Lin said in a telephone interview that he had assumed “the difference might be caused by the acoustics.”

Acoustics had nothing to do with it. Under pressure from the highest levels of the ruling Communist Party to find the perfect face and voice, the ceremony’s production team concluded the only solution was to use two girls instead of one. Miaoke, a third grader, was judged cute and appealing but “not suitable” as a singer. Another girl, Yang Peiyi, 7, was judged the best singer but not as cute. So when Miaoke opened her mouth to sing, the voice that was actually heard was a recording of Peiyi.

And it is unclear if Miaoke even knew.

“The reason was for the national interest,” explained Chen Qigang, general music designer of the opening ceremonies, who revealed the deception during a Sunday radio interview. “The child on camera should be flawless in image, internal feeling and expression.”

China wants the Olympics as a stage to present a picture-perfect image to the outside world, and perfection was clearly the goal for the dazzling opening ceremonies. The filmmaker Zhang Yimou, who oversaw the production, has drawn international raves for a performance considered one of the most spectacular in Olympic history. But to achieve the spectacular, Mr. Zhang faked not only the song; organizers also have admitted that one early sequence of the stunning fireworks shown to television viewers was actually created using digitally enhanced computer graphics for “theatrical effect.”

Dubbing music during large outdoor performances is not unprecedented. At the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, the famed tenor Luciano Pavarotti, then 71, lip-synched an aria, a concession to his age and the cold weather. But the recording was still his voice, as is usually the case when performers lip-synch.

After last Friday’s performance, Mr. Zhang appeared at a news conference with Chinese reporters and praised Miaoke. “She’s very cute and sings quite well, too,” he said. Asked to name which section of the show he found most satisfying, he first mentioned Miaoke.

“I was moved every time we did a rehearsal on this, from the bottom of my heart,” he said, according to a transcript of the news conference.

Miaoke’s song was considered critical because it coincided with the arrival of the national flag inside the massive National Stadium, known as the Bird’s Nest. In his radio interview, Mr. Chen said that a member of the ruling Communist Party’s powerful Politburo, whom he did not identify, attended one of the last rehearsals, along with numerous other officials, and demanded that Miaoke’s voice “must change.”

By Tuesday, the Chinese media had already pounced on the story, instigating a national conversation that government censors were trying to mute by stripping away many, but not all, of the public comments posted online. The outrage was especially heated over the cold calculation used to appraise the girls.

“Please save the last bit of trueness in our children,” wrote one person using the online name Weirderhua. “They think Yang Peiyi’s smile is not cute enough? What we need is truth, not some fake loveliness! I hope the kids will not be hurt. This is not their fault.”

Another person added: “Children are innocent. Don’t contaminate their minds!”

Mr. Lin, Miaoke’s father, said his daughter had been under strict orders not to discuss plans for the performance. He got only the 15-minute notice about her role and was thrilled. He only later learned of the voice switch when he saw a video clip of the interview by the musical director, Mr. Chen.

In that interview on a program called “Beijing Music Radio,” Mr. Chen depicted the process of selecting a child singer as a tortured ordeal. He said about 10 children were chosen who “had a good image and who can sing well.” Initially, a 10-year-old girl was selected “whose voice was really good.” This girl held the role for most of the rehearsals — until Mr. Zhang decided she was too old.

Then, Mr. Chen said, the desired age of the singer was lowered and several young girls, including Miaoke and Peiyi, were taken to the Central People’s Radio Station in Beijing. “After the recording, we thought that Lin Miaoke’s voice was not very suitable,” Mr. Chen said. “Finally, we made the decision that the voice we would use was Yang Peiyi’s.”

But not her face. Photos posted online showed a happy girl with imperfect teeth, hardly an uncommon problem in China. “Everyone should understand this in this way,” Mr. Chen said. “This is in the national interest. It is the image of our national music, national culture, especially during the entrance of our national flag. This is an extremely important, extremely serious matter.”

He added, “I think it is fair to both Lin Miaoke and Yang Peiyi.”

On Monday, Peiyi appeared on China Central Television, or CCTV, the state network. “I’m O.K. with it,” she told her interviewer, even performing a song. “My voice was used in the performance. I think that’s enough.”

Miaoke’s father, a news photographer at a Chinese newspaper, was worried about how she would take the news. Since age 6, Miaoke has worked in television advertisements, even appearing with the country’s wildly popular hurdling champion, Liu Xiang. Her appearance in the opening ceremonies made her an instant celebrity in China, and her image was reproduced around the world.

“Here’s something I want to tell you,” Mr. Lin said he told his daughter. “The music director announced just now that it was not your voice when you were singing at the opening ceremony. The song was actually performed by you two girls.”

Mr. Lin said his daughter was not upset. He said that Miaoke and Peiyi were “good friends” and that Miaoke “doesn’t care who sang the song, as long as she performed.”

Then, he added: “I don’t care about this, either. The only thing I care about is that my daughter will not get hurt by this. She’ll understand when she grows up.”

Tighter controls are necessary when you tout yourself as Whole Foods

Recall Leads Whole Foods to a Change

Whole Foods Market said Monday it would tighten oversight of its suppliers to keep substandard products out of stores, after recalling ground beef that apparently sickened customers in two states.

Scrambling to contain the fallout from a recall that threatens the chain’s reputation for quality, Whole Foods acknowledged that it had failed to catch an important change made by one of its suppliers of ground beef, Coleman Natural Beef.

After coming under new ownership, Coleman Natural began using a slaughterhouse in Omaha that had received multiple citations and had fought a long-running battle with the Agriculture Department. The government has said the plant was the source of ground beef that has sickened scores of people around the country.

Most of the beef was sold at grocers other than Whole Foods and recalled this summer. An additional 1.2 million pounds were recalled on Friday by the processor after illnesses in several states were tentatively linked to ground beef sold at Whole Foods and other stores.

At least four regional grocery chains — Fred Meyer, King Soopers and City Market, all owned by the Kroger Company, and Dorothy Lane — have also recalled suspect beef packages in recent days.

Whole Foods acknowledged that a code stamped on beef packages arriving at its stores accurately reflected the change in processing plants. But the grocery chain said it had no procedures in place to watch the codes on arriving meat packages, and therefore failed to notice it was getting beef from a packing plant it had never approved.

Whole Foods will immediately institute new procedures to detect such a change in the future, the chain said. A spokeswoman, Libba Letton, said the company would also undertake a broad review of procedures for approving suppliers and scrutinizing the quality of products.

“It’s going to mean going back and examining these other things and making sure there aren’t holes, especially in terms of food safety,” Ms. Letton said.

In addition to auditing shipments more carefully, Whole Foods will also require E. coli testing of beef that goes beyond government requirements, she said.

The recall is the latest blow for a company already struggling with anemic sales growth because of the economic slowdown.

“The assumption is that for the extra money that you pay for most Whole Foods products, in return you’re getting something that’s safer, fresher and more nutritious,” said Gene Grabowski, head of the crisis and litigation practice at Levick Strategic Communications, who has handled several food-recall cases. “And this damages that perception a great deal.”

The beef in question, which has been linked to illnesses in several states, came from an Omaha company called Nebraska Beef. The same company had, earlier this summer, processed the 5.3 million pounds of beef linked to nearly 50 cases of infection with a disease-causing strain of the organism E. coli.

Whole Foods has long bought beef from Coleman Natural Foods, of Golden, Colo. That company announced in April it would sell its beef line to Meyer Natural Angus, of Loveland, Colo. After the sale, Coleman apparently started processing some of its beef at Nebraska Beef, of Omaha.

Ms. Letton said Coleman was obliged to get Whole Foods’ approval for the change, but did not do so. “We relied on our suppliers to follow the rules,” she said.

After buying the beef line, Meyer received rights to use the Coleman brand name for a year with existing customers, said Katie Coakley, a spokeswoman for Coleman Natural Foods. A Meyer Natural Angus spokesman, Del Holzer, confirmed that Meyer is using the Coleman name.

He declined to comment further and would not address questions about why Meyer began using the Nebraska plant. A representative for Nebraska Beef did not return calls on Monday requesting comment.

Ms. Letton said Whole Foods scrutinizes every supplier on how it raises, transports, slaughters and processes animals, and audits suppliers every year.

“They already have a lot more inspection than most retailers would have,” said Doc Hatfield, a rancher in Brothers, Ore., who is part of a cooperative that sells beef to Whole Foods.

Whole Foods recalled all fresh ground beef sold between June 2 and Aug. 6 at its stores in Connecticut, Rhode Island, Maine, Massachusetts, Florida, New Jersey, New York, Kentucky, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, the District of Columbia, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, and Wisconsin.

Food-safety advocates said that the recall was troubling.

“Part of this is, this is another example of a broken federal system that hasn’t put enough resources into stopping this problem,” said Jaydee Hanson, policy director at the Center for Food Safety in Washington.

As for Whole Foods, “they have positioned themselves as a company that takes food safety very seriously,” he said. “If they really didn’t know who was processing beef for them, they should have.”

Pay up corporate America!!

Most companies in US avoid federal income taxes

Two-thirds of U.S. corporations paid no federal income taxes between 1998 and 2005, according to a new report from Congress.

The study by the Government Accountability Office, expected to be released Tuesday, said about 68 percent of foreign companies doing business in the U.S. avoided corporate taxes over the same period.

Collectively, the companies reported trillions of dollars in sales, according to GAO's estimate.

"It's shameful that so many corporations make big profits and pay nothing to support our country," said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who asked for the GAO study with Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

An outside tax expert, Chris Edwards of the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, said increasing numbers of limited liability corporations and so-called "S" corporations pay taxes under individual tax codes.

"Half of all business income in the United States now ends up going through the individual tax code," Edwards said.

The GAO study did not investigate why corporations weren't paying federal income taxes or corporate taxes and it did not identify any corporations by name. It said companies may escape paying such taxes due to operating losses or because of tax credits.

More than 38,000 foreign corporations had no tax liability in 2005 and 1.2 million U.S. companies paid no income tax, the GAO said. Combined, the companies had $2.5 trillion in sales. About 25 percent of the U.S. corporations not paying corporate taxes were considered large corporations, meaning they had at least $250 million in assets or $50 million in receipts.

The GAO said it analyzed data from the Internal Revenue Service, examining samples of corporate returns for the years 1998 through 2005. For 2005, for example, it reviewed 110,003 tax returns from among more than 1.2 million corporations doing business in the U.S.

Dorgan and Levin have complained about companies abusing transfer prices — amounts charged on transactions between companies in a group, such as a parent and subsidiary. In some cases, multinational companies can manipulate transfer prices to shift income from higher to lower tax jurisdictions, cutting their tax liabilities. The GAO did not suggest which companies might be doing this.

"It's time for the big corporations to pay their fair share," Dorgan said.

Monday, August 11, 2008

Give 'em hell Arnold and don't back down!!!

Schwarzenegger sues controller to force pay cuts

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and California's top payroll official are headed for a court fight over the governor's attempt to cut the pay of about 175,000 state employees until lawmakers approve a budget.

A lawsuit against state Controller John Chiang was filed Monday in Sacramento County Superior Court. The suit says the state Constitution and several sections of law prohibit the state from paying full wages without approval of a budget.

The controller, a Democrat whose office is responsible for paying state employees, has balked at carrying out the Republican governor's July 31 executive order cutting employees' pay until a budget for the fiscal year that began July 1 is approved. Lawmakers are divided over how to close a $15.2 billion deficit.

Schwarzenegger directed that the pay of nearly 140,000 rank-and-file employees be cut to the federal minimum wage of $6.55 an hour. About 30,000 management employees would be paid $455 a week, and another 8,000 workers, mostly doctors and attorneys, would get nothing. All those workers would get the remainder of their normal paychecks after the budget is approved.

"We don't believe we are in a position to wait much longer for resolution of this question," said Lynelle Jolley, a spokeswoman for Schwarzenegger's Department of Personnel Administration.

Chiang said the governor has "created a solution to a problem that does not exist."

"Rather than focus on building consensus for a budget that addresses California's long-term fiscal problems, the governor seems adamant on picking a fight over whether state employees are entitled to the wages they have worked for and earned," the controller said in a statement.

He said he was confident the court would agree with him that it was impossible to alter the pay of so many state employees in a short period of time.

The two sides met last week to discuss how Schwarzenegger's order could be implemented.

The administration suggested that the controller could suspend the employees' regular pay and implement the lower compensation as a "special pay differential." Administration officials said that process is employed when pay for legislative employees and others is suspended during budget impasses.

A controller's official said Monday that the process wasn't that simple.

Don Scheppmann, head of the controller's personnel and payroll services division, said it could "subject the state to further litigation and unnecessary costs." In a letter, he asked to be given until the end of the week to provide a "thoughtful and thorough analysis" of the options proposed by the Schwarzenegger administration.

The state already is being sued by the Service Employees International Union over the provision of Schwarzenegger's order that laid off more than 10,000 temporary, part-time and contract employees.

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The enforcer and agitator will always be a big part of the hockey experience

The Straight Edge: Enforcers are alive and well

James DeLory knows what has got him this far in his hockey career.

At 6-foot-5, 225 pounds, the recently graduated Oshawa Generals defenseman was known as one of the toughest customers in the Ontario League, dropping the gloves and physically intimidating the other team whenever necessary.

“I do end up attracting attention,” DeLory said understatedly.

According to hockeyfights.com, DeLory peaked with 14 major bouts in 2006-07. But you have to wonder if the reason he only fought 10 times last year is because no one wanted to take him on.

Far from retreating from the game, the enforcer – and his little brother, the scrappy agitator – is still a part of hockey and is in no way leaving any time soon.

The Oshawa bruiser’s junior career is finished, but his life as a hired gun has just begun. While DeLory was drafted by San Jose, the Sharks couldn’t find a place for him in the organization, so he signed with Florida this summer. Rochester, the Panthers’ American League affiliate, was in need of an enforcer and DeLory hopes to fit the bill.

“I’ve talked to a lot of the top fighters in the OHL,” DeLory noted. “And we know we’re going to have to play with that edge in order to be successful at the next level.”

Along with DeLory, recent draftees such as first-rounders Kyle Beach and Colten Teubert have been known to throw down when called upon and the later rounds of the 2008 NHL draft were spattered with members of the 200-plus PIM club.

Daniel Carcillo, Jared Boll and Zach Stortini are just a few tough guys who made names for themselves in the NHL last season and the war machine ain’t stopping anytime soon.

And do you know why?

Because the NHL endorses fighting.

Yup, you heard me, folks. And I have no problem with that. How does the league endorse fighting? It’s simple: The NHL tacitly approves of fisticuffs because players are not suspended or fined for them. Sure, you can get suspended or fined for fighting in the last five minutes of a game if you’ve been red-flagged as a “goon,” but that’s a pretty simple rule to get around: Send your message at the six-minute mark. It’s not rocket science.

While fans of other sports can only hope something bad happens to hate-him-unless-he-plays-for-you guys like Terrell Owens or Alex Rodriguez, hockey has made it known since its inception that if you’re a jerk, you’re going to get rocked in the mouth sooner or later. Your pretty little teeth are going to bounce off the ice and you’ll think twice about spearing or butt-ending one of our boys again.

Repulsive? Venomous? I don’t know. It’s certainly cathartic every once in a while and there’s a big difference between law and justice.

When Dale Hunter ran a prone Pierre Turgeon in the 1993 playoffs, the long suspension would have felt a little hollow had Steve Thomas and Benoit Hogue not jumped the Washington Capitals scoundrel in retaliation. Is a scenario where Hunter crumples Turgeon into the boards from behind then skates away smugly really more palatable than the reality, when a linesman had to tear him from a frothing mob of Islanders?

Not that you can expect to see boxers on ice getting a lot of skating time these days. Philadelphia’s Riley Cote played 70 games last year, but averaged just 4:16 of ice time. Similarly, Anaheim enforcer George Parros’ shifts worked out to 5:56 of ice time a game. Even Boll, who is more of an agitator, played just 8:00 a game.

Which is why the smart youngsters are serious about being more complete hockey players.

“I look at Chris Pronger and the way he moves for a big man,” DeLory said. “He plays with an edge and is not necessarily dropping the gloves all the time. I’m working on getting quicker and more agile. With the clutching and grabbing gone, you need to be able to catch up to those forwards when they get the puck.”

Having said that, DeLory doesn’t want to forsake the fists that have opened doors for him. With his size, he probably still would have ended up in the OHL, but the mettle he displayed with the York Simcoe Express made him Oshawa’s first round pick in 2004.

“I did have a couple fights in my draft year, trying to get noticed,” he said. “It’s gotten me where I am today. It worked for me.”

And fighting will continue to help kids land contracts, because it has been ingrained in hockey and teams often covet the skill. Even though the NHL doesn’t promote this part of the game, the league knows it wouldn’t be able to banish it without a backlash.

Repulsive? Venomous? Reality.

Ryan Kennedy is a writer and copy editor for The Hockey News magazine, the co-author of the book Hockey's Young Guns and a regular contributor to THN.com. His blog appears Wednesdays, his column - The Straight Edge - every second Friday, and his feature, The Hot List appears Tuesdays.

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Brian Kemp (Posted 2008-08-11 12:09:03)
Section325L, Tootoo is over-rated, and there is no way I want that one-dimensional guy on my team. He hits, but doesn't do enough of anything else. Also, he's cheap, and I don't just mean his salary. You can keep him, thanks. Weber, him I like, but Tootoo, I'll pass.

Brian Kemp (Posted 2008-08-11 10:47:14)
Curtis, fighting has nothing to do with why hockey isn't more popular. If that were true, MMA wouldn't be the fast rising sport that it is (hate that crap, but that's just me.) Hockey isn't popular because people are told ad nauseum that hockey isn't popular. It's a Jedi mind trick here in the States, ESPN tells the masses that they shouldn't like hockey because their friends don't like hockey, and too many people buy it. The traditional markets are strong, and over time, the newer markets can become strong, but only if the NHL figures out a way to get a buzz going around it again, like in the 80's with Gretzky in LA, or Messier and the Rangers winning in '94. To say it's fighting is wrong. It just takes time to overcome the programming to get people to try it. Once they do, many learn to appreciate what hockey has to offer.

Picard (Posted 2008-08-11 09:59:21)
Figure skating DOES NOT have better ratings than hockey, except maybe in San Francisco, Double Sowcow. And The Blizz - you want statistical evidence for allowing enforcers? How about: 80 games playes, 92 goals, 120 assists for 212 points? Or 80 games played, 52 goals, 163 assists for 215? Those are Wayne Gretzky's two biggest seasons, and they wouldn't have been what they were without Dave Semenko making sure he stayed safe and healthy. The '80s were THE era for goals and high scoring, and they were also the prime era for enforcers. Am I the only one who thinks its not just a coincidence?

Section325L (Posted 2008-08-11 08:37:26)
Haha.......nice to see all the Tootoo love! He is actually a very good player when not starting any crap on the ice. Him and Weber have 2 of the best slap shots on the team. Say what you want about him....you wish he was on your team.

red herring (Posted 2008-08-11 03:02:23)
tootoo(like the ballarina outfit) is a cheap shot artist NOT a fighter or someone who brings a lot of good to a club.There are too many players[to list] in the league who are players(not like tootoo and rutuu) who grind and play for their team every night, no matter what it takes.These guys are needed on every team every night. GO Canucks/Bruins Go

Double Sowcow (Posted 2008-08-11 00:25:48)
Hockey is a lot like figure skating without fighting. Judges make subjective calls in figure skating. In hockey refs do the same. They call penalties when they want, not when they happen. Maybe if they called a penalty when it happened there would be less cheap shots and hence less need for goons. btw figure skating has higher ratings than hockey

T.Roy (Posted 2008-08-10 23:56:24)
John O, I can't wait to see the Stars play next season so I can see Avery, Ott, and Morrow get the snot kicked out of them.

Curtis (Posted 2008-08-10 21:41:44)
I agree with everything said. And I would add, this is the major reason why hockey ranks below all the other major sports in attendance, revenue and interest. And it is the major reason why it is so difficult for those of us in small markets to generate enough interest in the sport to get leagues going. So, the question remains one of how much does the NHL REALLY want to expand the sport to those who may be interested in the sport but don't watch because of the fighting?

Loves the fights in hockey (Posted 2008-08-10 21:40:26)
Personally, I love the fights in hockey. Every team needs an enforcer (it keeps the opposing team honest), just as every team needs a superstar. If they took the fighting out of hockey, it would just be figure skating with an inanimate object on the ice. I haven't witnessed much fighting in soccer? The only blow being dealt that I can recall was the infamous flying headbutt by Z.Z. Baseball fights are hilarious(they need to learn how to throw a punch), and basketball players 'fights' are funny as well. A lot of shoving and girly punches thrown. But hockey, hockey has Enforcers or pests. Chucking knuckles is all part of the game. My favourite enforcers are Laraque, Chara and Carcillo. Chara has broken orbital bones and cheek bones and jaws. Laraque looks like a prize fighter out there. And Carcillo doesn't back down from no one. He throws punches like a jackhammer (just as fast and just as effective). Fighting will always be in hockey. Whether it be on the ice or in the stands.

sigma0 (Posted 2008-08-10 14:10:34)
Being German and thus naturally a big soccer fan I quickly turned to hockey when I came to the US. Speed, skill, hits it's an awesome game. I've played soccer myself and can tell out of experience that having no enforcers is a major problem for skilled soccer players. You basically get a cheap shot every time you have the ball (yes, achilles heals can only take that much kicking before they give up). Having enforcers and some physical punishment for cheap shooting would greatly add to the game. I enjoy every part of hockey, and btw. Jody Shelley practices very hard to become a better player, he even scored a goal last season...although I agree that that's not why he's in the roster. Go Sharks!

T.Roy (Posted 2008-08-10 01:14:11)
Watch a Red Wings game on Fox Detroit if you get the chance if you happen to be here when a game is going on. Mickey Redmond shares the play by play. If a fight breaks out he will most always say their is not a person sitting down. He himself was not a big fighter, but reminds us all that it is part of the game and always was. He will also tell fans how intent to injury (such as the Burtuzi,Brashear, ect. incidents) are worth big fines and suspensions. Enforcers and clean fights will never go away. Bring it on Avery, you punk.

Habs4life (Posted 2008-08-09 16:19:35)
I totally agree with Brian and would just like to address knownothings(knowitall, yeah right !) comment on international hockey being better than the NHL because it doesn't allow fighting, I agree international hockey is a great display of hockey skill but it is because you take the best players from 30 teams and put them on 6 - 8 teams not because of fighting

Brian Kemp (Posted 2008-08-09 14:59:45)
Knowitall, I rarely say this, but I think you got your name wrong. There were goons on every team in the 80's when there were 9 less teams. The dilution of the talent pool has nothing to do with goons' continued presence on rosters. I agree, a penalty should be a penalty no matter who is winning, what the score is or how late in the game it is.

Colin Feeney (Posted 2008-08-09 14:56:03)
Great story! I'm not a fight fan per se, but with that said, I'd rather see two guys drop 'em and go rather than see a lot of stickwork, where someone could really get hurt. I've been working in amateur hockey in St. Louis for 25 years, and I've seen lots of that when fighting was banned. Botom line: for better or worse, fighting and enforcers have always been part of the game, and it's not going away anytime soon. I may not necessarily like it, but I do accept it.

Tommy P (Posted 2008-08-09 14:43:10)
I have always enjoyed seeing two players go at it on the ice. It really stirs up the fans and makes the game more physical. I do think that there should be less of it however because at times it begins to become ridiculous see two j-offs trying to punch each other for the umpteenth time. It certainly gives us great memories though. Check out on youtube the Chris Osgood vs. Patrick Roy fight. Classic hardnosed hockey. keep the fights but limit them

Knowitall (Posted 2008-08-09 13:03:42)
Fighting is dated and should not be in hockey. Rules should evolve and should reflect the sign of the times like in football. If one watches international hockey where fighting is not allowed, one could see superior hockey on display. Firstly, the problem with the NHL is that the player pool is so diluted that the only way to fill rosters of the way too many teams is to include goons who have little or no skill. And secondly, refs need to enforce rules all the time. A penalty in the first period should be a penalty in the third period. That way the instigation rule is negated.

Willing (Posted 2008-08-09 12:23:51)
Dave Semenko was a stone on skates but with hard work and training he was able to contribute some to the Oilers in the 80 s I seem to remember a artical in the early 80 s about how useless he was with his gloves on and Sather said just wait and see with in a few years he could be trusted to take a regular shift this in its self was intimidating for the oposition so most of these guys can be helpful in other ways if they train acordingly!

Flyer guy 16 (Posted 2008-08-09 12:17:42)
I agree with all you Tootoo bashers. All he's good for is running around waiting for his chance to take off someone's head. Look at the look of bewilderment on his face when the puck comes within 10 feet of him. People bash Steve Downey all the time ( most of it deserved) but Tootoo is like Downey without any puck skills.

Edog (Posted 2008-08-09 11:02:30)
If they got rid of the instigator penalty, a lot of the cheap shots would disappear.....the Code would be honored....

Hockey Snob (Posted 2008-08-09 10:48:14)
As long as the cheap shots are allowed, the Enforcer role will live and have a place in hockey. When refs look the other way to keep the game close instead of making the legitimate call, ditto. Sorry, its an unpopular thing to question the refs, but their job is to make the calls they see, when they don't, it gets ugly. ie: 2008 Stanley Cup finals, did no one see Mr. Roberts punch Mr. Franzen in the head and skate away???? Sad when 2 refs are staring at the play and no one makes the call, check the replay. Ignore that question and the Enforcer lives on!

John O (Posted 2008-08-09 07:23:41)
I can't wait to watch the Stars next year with Ott, Avery, and Morrow. Not as big as some, but definitely enough to get under your skin on every shift. =)

mark marcus (Posted 2008-08-09 04:07:04)
lets not forget how freakin hard it is to fight on ice!

Humberto Yanez (Posted 2008-08-09 03:21:19)
Daniel Carcillo isnt really an enforcer, hes more of a darcy tucker type of player in his early years (ie now) but hes awesome none the less, the coyotes get more cheers when he steps on the ice or when peter mueller does something with the puck

Jamie (Posted 2008-08-08 23:18:34)
Excellent article. I'm English and one of the things that first brought hockey to my attention was the fact that it involved big hits and fights, i went on to discover that it was the greatest game in the world. I agree with Blizz that having enforcers doesn't stop cheap shots on key players but hockey is a team sport and guys aren't going to watch their friends get hammered and think a suspension is full justice. And show me a contact sport in the world where a fight has never brkoken out when someone has injured a player on the other team. I enjoy fights and I'd rather see two guys for whom fighting is part of their game square off to stick up for their teams than a melee with guys with sticks and blades on their feet. Enforcers are part of the game and part of what makes hockey such a complete sport.

Hammer Head (Posted 2008-08-08 23:07:13)
They fight in other sports... it just looks ridiculous and has no bearing on the game's outcome usually. A fight in hockey can play a role in changing the outcome. Plus you can't expect guys to be lay each other into the boards shift after shift and not get pissed enough to want to go a round. That is what makes hockey the best sport... anyone can hit anyone. Can a batter throw a pitch at a pitcher's head? No... but every once in a while he gets PO'd enough to go and try girlie slap fighting one. In B-ball someone takes an elbow every once in a while that will PO him off enough that he too will have a girlie slap fight with someone as well. Hockey rules, and fighting is part of the reason why.

Seb (Posted 2008-08-08 19:34:58)
Boogaard is fun to watch, has no hockey sense whatsoever but still entertaining to see how he can level a guy with one punch! Guys like Laraque, Brashear, Carcillo or Neil are there to scare the other team. When u got guys like that on ur team the other players feel 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier cause they feel someone is there to protect them if they get hit. When u hit Crosby...and Laraque shows up in ur face the next shift telling u to stay away from him or else...u stay away from him! But to be truly useful enforcers gotta know how to play hockey and theres only a handful of guys able to do both...

Flyerfan52 (Posted 2008-08-08 19:34:56)
If all players were equally talented there'd be no need for enforcers. With over 600 players in the league, there is a need for players that keep cheap shot artists honest knowing there could be retribution. Greats like Richard, Howe & even Orr would look after themselves. Now, with the smaller players coming into the league again with all teams still having the huge guys, there's a need until all players make the league on talent alone. Don't forget that most of the so called goons were good enough in junior to score a fair number of points. Otherwise, teams would draft UFs and teach them to skate.

The Blizz (Posted 2008-08-08 18:35:46)
I don't mind fighting (it's great entertainment), but what I do mind is wasting a roster spot for a player who is on your team based on a dubious premise. The basic assumption is that people don't take cheap shots at superstars because you have a tough guy on your team to protect them. The problem with this argument is that George Laraque didn't stop Mike Richards from laying out Evgeni Malkin in the playoffs. Does anyone really think Brad Stuart would have thought twice about giving Sidney Crosby a crushing blow in Game 6 of the Cup Finals if George Laraque had been dressed for that game? Put simply, there's simply no statistical or anecdotal evidence to suggest that enforcers actually keep superstars from getting hit. Hits like the one that Dale Hunter made against Pierre Turgeon and that Bertuzzi made against Moore are acts of irrational violence, which means that even the prospect of being suspended for an entire season or career couldn't stop them... as if having a cement head on your bench could. There is an argument to be made for permitting fighting, but let's not that bleed into the irrational and suggest that there is any justification for wasting a spot on an "intimidator".

Mike (Posted 2008-08-08 17:50:08)
You could put as many enforcers on the team as you want. It wouldn't make a difference. When Iggy gets mad, fights. Regarless. It's awesome, but those $7m fists .. Scary

Braden (Posted 2008-08-08 17:31:40)
Fighting definitley has a place in the game. And I don't agree with anyone who says that it makes hockey look disgraceful compared to other team sports. Soccer has it's stupid riots when the fans go nuts and fight, turn over cars, smash things and start fires. Yet nobody seems to care about that. Although it does add something interesting to the snorefest that is major league soccer. I'll never understand how it has become one of the most popular sports in the world.

fleetwood94 (Posted 2008-08-08 17:29:42)
Great article...it's nice to see tough guys get their props...but the best tough guys are/were the ones who could "pot the odd goal" as well. I remember Joey Kocur one year scored close to 20 goals and had 370-something PIMs. As for the Pens, letting Laracque go was a dunce move-Eric Godard isn't in his class by far-same with Columbus and Jody Shelley. The top scorers need proven protection-not a minor-pro "legend" who turtles whenever the Brashears and Laracques come calling!!!

Web (Posted 2008-08-08 17:21:08)
Enforcers and fighters are part of the game only if you're referring to North American professional and junior hockey.Outside of the martial arts sports, these leagues are the only ones of any team sport, not only hockey, that allows fighting. Fans don't flock to soccer, basketball, baseball, etc, to see fighting.For every Chris Neil who can actually play the game, there are the Jody Shelleys and Riley Cotes of the world who would never see the ice if not for their fists and those who tangle with them.

Flyerfan52 (Posted 2008-08-08 16:54:17)
Good, true article. Even most of the comments so far make sense. FYI john 7oakes, Brashear whipped Domi's butt almost every time they fought. Sometimes, adding insult, he even scored shortly thereafter. Domi was so over-rated. Now Probert, Fergie Sr., etal., they were fighters & players that knew their way around the rink. There were also very good players like Robinson that seldom had to fight because they excelled at that too.

fred (Posted 2008-08-08 16:45:45)
PROBERT FOR PRESIDENT....realisticly i would love to see him in the wings management...now that bowman's gone(good luck bowman by the way)

fred (Posted 2008-08-08 16:42:59)
nice krivo....tootoo's a tool...and whatever became of sergei krivokrasov?

Andrew (Posted 2008-08-08 16:37:30)
Aaron Downey is a good enforcer Brian Mcgrattan Daniel Carcillo George Parros Shawn Thornton etc... totoo sucks

Krivo Krasov (Posted 2008-08-08 15:59:26)
Uh, for the moron with the Jordin Tootoo comment, the next time he fights someone, notice how he resembles a large shelled animal- the turtle. Remember when James Wisniewski beat the hell out of him on New Years' Day? Tootoo is a nothing.

snowman (Posted 2008-08-08 15:55:26)
Alex in AZ makes some good points. If you don't want to watch the enforcement portion of the game go have your cup of tea and turn on the figure skating. If the fans had any hockey playing experience they would realize the players appreciate the enforcer’s presence to keep the game honestng. If the fans had any hockey playing experience they would realize the players appreciate the enforcers presence to keep the game honest. Best enforcers, Tony Twist and Probert.

Nikolaj Jensen (Posted 2008-08-08 15:52:13)
This is why Jarome Iginla is SO good, he is one of the top players in the league and he can throw some cruel and unusual punishment at anyone who gives him a funny look. The league needs more Bob Proberts and fewer Derek Boogards, people who can play and shake it up are so valuable in todays league compared to the big shaved gorillas who can barely skate.

john 7oaks (Posted 2008-08-08 15:26:17)
all i gotta say is tony twist..him or tie domi toughest guys i have ever seen play..then of course probert, grimson..i would love to see brasher get destroyed by one of these heavyweights..

James Finney (Posted 2008-08-08 15:13:24)
Fighting is and always should be a part of the game. Joey - they square off like that because they don't want to go in recklessly and get themselves knocked out. Just about all of the best fights ever started in the way you mentioned. Alex - I agree. Look at a lot of other major sports and growing sports - Americans love the violence. Americans love hits in football, love the crashes in NASCAR (which is a terrible sport, but still), and many love MMA fighting - why wouldn't they watch hockey for the fights? Very good article though, I'm glad someone is finally saying that its a good thing.

jan (Posted 2008-08-08 14:59:49)
The enforcers and the agitators will always be a part of hockey. I'd love to see longer suspensions for the repeat "cheap shot" guys. (DeLory, if the Panthers send you to Rochester, bring your fists, but bring some skills as well. You won't play too many minutes a game in the NHL if you are just an enforcer -- improve your skills and you might get more ice time as well. Looking forward to watching you play)

Section325L (Posted 2008-08-08 14:20:28)
Jordin Tootoo kicks all of their a$$es! The above list is nothing more than a bunch of flabby little girly men.

Joey (Posted 2008-08-08 14:08:00)
I agree fighting is part of the game and has a place in the league. What I am getting tired of is the dancing at center ice. If your gonna fight then fight. No more of that dancing, feeling out your opponent. If they drop the gloves and haven't mixed it up in 2 seconds then it should be a delay of game.

Ryan Thiessen (Posted 2008-08-08 13:52:52)
Good to see an article that actually says out loud what we all know, Fighting is in the game, is an important part of the game, and should stay in the game. I say bring back the goon and get rid of all these cheep shot artists the old fashioned way!

Alex in AZ (Posted 2008-08-08 13:50:44)
The argument that the NHL would be more popular to the mainstream without fighting is tiresome and ignorant if you consider the ever-growing popularity of cage fighting. I would much rather see a player have to worry about having to drop the gloves with an enforcer AND a suspension for a cheap shot than just the suspension. It makes for a more effective deterrence, it can change the whole direction of a game, and it's exciting for the fans. In fact, it's another way to convert new fans that will be excited about the fights at first and then quickly recognize the other great aspects of the game. That's not to say however that the league couldn't do a better job with suspensions - they should be longer for repeat offenders than they currently are.

HabFan (Posted 2008-08-08 13:34:31)
Great article as usual.

Picard (Posted 2008-08-08 13:32:35)
Solid article. Its nice to see a little good press go to some of the hardest workers in the league for once. Yeah, they may not get the highlight reel goals, or play 20 minutes a game, but these kinds of guys have a very clear role in the league, and they are valuable to every team. Teams like Pittsburgh need guys like Laraques to protect their skilled stars (who've they go to replace him, by the way?) and save them from getting run like what happened to Turgeon. Hunter doesn't do that if heknows he has to answer to Chris Simon or Bob Probert, I betcha. On top of that, certain teams need these guys to protect their stars from THEMSELVES. You think the Flames like seeing Iggy drop the gloves and risk breaking his hands? Or Tampa with Lecavalier? You bring in guys like this to stop guys like that from fighting. And, as a nice side bonus, the goons often end up being fan favourites, helping to seel tickets and merchandise. Leave the frigging game alone - its been a good one for a century or so, why change it because it MIGHT be more popular if we do? Fighting has a very important place in this sport, and always should. Bleeding hearts who don't like to see them need to toughen up a bit...this is a real sport, not the video games you're playing in the dark